Saturday 5 September 2009

Mythbuster: The English Conspiracy

On Monday 31st of August 2009 the final matches of the NT World Cup 4th Round were played. After the games the Group 2 table read as follows:

Image 1: NT WC XIII Rd IV Group 2

As you can see England and Ireland had identical Points, Goal Difference and Goals Scored. The rules state that in such a case a coin toss decides who will be placed higher. So what's the problem?

Well, the rules are clear enough for normal club series, but it is not clear whether the same rule applies to NT World Cup groups. With no official confirmation that a coin toss had actually taken place questions were quickly raised on the Irish forum: Was there a conspiracy to see the English go through to the World Cup Semis? Did they only go through because their TeamID is lower? Or was it alphabetical maybe?

Many Irish users were not happy. In fact you could say that some of them were unhappy. Very unhappy.

So they took their questions to the Global forum in the hope that a passing HT would clear things up and confirm or deny the conspiracy theories. Sadly, several days later, their questions remain unanswered and still people are unsure of why one team is playing Deutschland in the Semi Finals of the World Cup and one team is playing a meaningless friendly against Pakistan in rainy Wicklow.

Thankfully some helpful users on the English and Irish forums have revealed the truth about this particular conspiracy theory.

Everything hinges on what the primary method of separating teams who are equal on Points, Goal Difference and Goals Scored is. By looking at previous World Cup groups it is possible to put certain theories to the test.

Case 1: Makedonija - Malaysia

Was the primary sorting method Lowest Team ID? No. Makedonia are team 3159 and Malaysia are 3081. Myth busted!

Were the teams sorted alphabetically? Yes, they were. Makedonija does without doubt come before Malaysia when sorted alphabetically. So, Myth confirmed? Not quite. Before we jump to any conclusions perhaps we should examine Case 2...

Case 2: France - Ceska Republika

From Case 1 we already know that the teams weren't sorted by Team ID, so no need to even look at that.

Were the teams sorted alphabetically? No. Myth busted.

(This case also tells us something else: Head to head results don't matter in this case either, as Ceska Republika beat France 1-0 and still finished below them in the table).

So, what is the logical conclusion?

A random draw between the equal teams is the only theory which still makes sense. Well, so far. I'm sure it's only a matter of time until someone dreams up another possible tie breaker!

The Real Problem

However, the main issue here is not which method was used to sort the two teams in the table. The main issue is the fact that 4 full days after the group table was published the forums were still filled with questions, rumour and hearsay. How can this be resolved? Personally I think there should be official staff members (either NTA GMs or HTs - I don't care) who are dedicated to the U20 and NT World Cups who are visable on the forums to answer questions like these when they occur.

Thousands of people around the world care passionately about the NT and U20 games in Hattrick, if I was an HT I would nurture this area of the game which creates such interest and which gives so much enjoyment to so many paying Supporters. At the moment us NT fans feel more than a little neglected.

2 comments:

  1. Hi,
    I am new th hattrick. I stumbled on your blog on my search for training. I read the post. My confirmation is it is indeed alphabeticaly ordered. You see, the C in the second case isn't the normal English C. Both has got different code in unicode representation. I believe the C in this case has a unicode much below the normal english alphabets. In that case France comes first in the ordering. Thus it has to be confirmed that unicode or ASCI (whichever are they following to represent characters) ordering is employed in this case.
    Thanks
    Christy

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  2. i was going to say the same.. any news about any official version?

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